On a Recent Conflict, My Views & a Critique of Reductionism
1. Introduction
I left an online discussion group about a week ago due to a conflict and I have been reflecting on it quite a bit. I thought I'd use this as an opportunity to write on what I've been thinking about these past few months as this conflict is representative of my principle concerns and allows me to update people on my views. I was initially conflicted as to how best to approach this blog post. On one side I would have liked to just make it about the arguments (we take so much pride in our ability to do that!) and mention no story, but on the other, I realized this was impossible, because the arguments in question and the personal are inextricably linked. To argue against this premise would be to say that our views -- our convictions -- do not affect our behavior, do not affect our reality, which is absurd.
Allow me to build on that by saying that I believe we are making a fatal error when we believe that we are in possession of ideas. Beliefs and ideas "appear as independent beings with individual bodies, in communication with humans but also between themselves", Marx said. We can go further and say that they have a life and power of their own, and they can possess us, Morin says. I believe we have been possessed, in the Western world, by a reductionism that traces back to Descartes, and it is one such possession -- in my view -- that has lead to the conflict that prompted this post.
Now, it would be hypocritical to say that my ideas do not possess me, and indeed, I do not exclude myself here. However, I believe we can use this possessive nature of ideas to our advantage. Being possessed by ideas like complexity, ambiguity, uncertainty, these, as far as I can see, do not lead to nefarious effects because they include rather than exclude, and they are centered around the idea of ongoing self-critique: our knowledge is always prone to errors and illusions. Ambiguity and complexity pave the way for tolerance and comprehension; reduction is a way to declare war.
Not that conflict should be avoided at all cost. Conflict is stimulating and necessary. Groups that avoid inner conflict are guaranteed to be or to devolve into an echo chamber. This conflict I was involved in was an instance of conflict that was desirable and important, but it was trivialized and ignored from the get-go, and later on was portrayed as being undesirable and petty. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Honestly, I think I'm mostly responsible for this conflict because I could have just left a long time ago, knowing that the environment in question breeds an hostility towards anything but its own dogmas and encourages willful ignorance. That is no doubt one of my shortcomings. As for the rest of them, which are obviously numerous, I am less in a position to explore them due to the nature of biases. If others want to discuss my shortcomings and present to me my blind-spots, I welcome them to do so. My comment section is open. I am always looking to learn more about myself.
2. The conflict
Now, elaborating on the conflict itself. It begins with the fact that the person I have argued with embraces a reductionist/scientistic paradigm/worldview, while I oppose it. Every single time I challenged this person's claims/presuppositions, I was met with one or multiple of these reactions: defensiveness, arrogance and dismissiveness. Rather than ask me questions when I initially disagreed with him each time, he chose to pigeon-hole my statements into his favorite boogeymen: the supernatural and the religious. (If he wasn't ignoring them altogether.) This occurred every single time. Not once did he try to be fair to my arguments by asking questions. Not once did he show a genuine interest in the material I am drawing from, despite claiming to be open to it.In the heat of things during the last conflict I was asked to explain my position and chose not to do so for three reasons that I can think of. (1) I am not in a position to teach people. (2) the previous reactions and misrepresentations discouraged me, and (3) because of the medium itself. The main issue with a live chat room is that encourages "fast thinking" (Kahneman). It's a fast-paced environment that encourages quick judgments, knee-jerk reactions. Put simply: shallow thinking. So, undesirable reactions and misrepresentations are understandable, and we should have lowered expectations between participants and be willing to forgive each other readily if we are misrepresenting each other's views. However, there was no such willingness there, no spirit of conviviality, and there comes a point after repeated offenses and stagnant exchanges where something must be said, at the risk of creating a conflict that delves into the personal.
Also, since things were heated, it was certainly not the time and place for an exposition of my views. I've previously held back on challenging this person because of his tendency to strawman and pigeon-hole my (and others') positions and the cocksureness with which he argues and rants. This behavior is highly indicative of someone who has a serious emotional investment in his positions, which means that it's not possible to dispassionately argue the arguments themselves, because they are strongly linked to his self-esteem. I suspect he's aware of this to some degree due to previous talks on our tribalistic nature, and I don't think he lacks the self-awareness to exclude himself from such a nature. I don't exclude myself either, we are all in the same boat, but I think it's obvious that some people deal better with their fanatical and dogmatic impulses.
Unless provoked, I am one of those people who doesn't want to harm others' self-esteem by saying or implying that they're making mistakes or being uncritical. The thing is that even if these statements are not made explicitly, the implications of challenging someone's deeply-held certainties are felt as if this is what they are being told. This is especially true when it comes to someone who evidently takes great pride in their intellect, which was the case with this individual. I had no reason to want to hurt his feelings by positioning myself as more informed or knowledgeable than he is, so I simply kept quiet most of the time. And indeed, it is when I finally had enough and I stated that his thinking was not nuanced that his pride got the best of him and things went south quickly from there.
A few days prior to this last conflict, we had a disagreement on nutrition, which is worth mentioning. He dogmatically pushed the idea that Soylent is the scientifically-backed food of the future -- a meal replacement that "improves upon nature", citing nothing but a study that had no results published. From my perspective, he was working backward from his conclusion due to what seems to be a proud bias that the "nature lovers are always wrong" -- an instance of black and white thinking and pigeon-holing. It's like he operated under the belief that the less real food he eats, the less like them he is, which is necessarily good, and to hell with making evidence-based decisions.
It's like wanting to reduce the amount of air you breathe because of the existence of breatharians (people claiming to survive on air and the sun's energy alone). Sorry that it inconveniences you, but in 2017 you still need to eat real food to maintain your structure as a natural machine. Soylent can hardly be considered food at all -- in fact it is banned in Canada where I live because it doesn't meet the basic requirements of a meal replacement. It operates from the reductionist framework, despite the fact that food synergy or "wholism" has been well-established in nutrition science, while the consumption of extracted, isolated & concentrated nutrients have done very poorly in clinical trials and mostly show no benefits at all. (See also a recent example: here.) In my view, Soylent is an overpriced gimmick that is primarily marketed towards people who value productivity, i.e. making money over taking care of their health. I definitely see the appeal in it, because I value not having to think about food, but there are better alternatives for quick meals if you value your health.
What became obvious to me with the last conflict is that this person is also rude and abusive if you challenge him for long enough. This is the more personal bit that I feel like I have to mention, because this is exactly what the user thedeliriousdonut, a philosophy student, said when he left the group, too. I have had other people tell me the same thing, but I decided to keep giving him the benefit of the doubt prior to this last conflict. This user also said the following:
"The success rate of that server to say things that are so trivially incorrect that it's clear there's an almost extreme lack of critical thinking and the low likelihood of anyone being convinced, sooner rejecting logic than admitting they're wrong, makes it clear my time would be wasted there. I don't really want to be in that server ever again. It does nobody any good. Someone rude and inconsiderate being in power is only the cherry on top."I sort of came to his defense back then, giving him the benefit of the doubt, but now I see I was clearly wrong, because this is what I came to conclude as well. Based on this, I don't believe anyone should invest themselves in this community while this person is in power. There is a hierarchy there and power is not distributed; he does not have to ask other admins before he chooses to do something, so he essentially has free reign to act on his impulses. This is not how a serious place operates, and it's especially ironic of one that has a rule to "check one's biases". What I am obviously not saying is that this person is evil and should be ex-communicated or punished in some way. I don't believe that at all. (Not that this post could ever have that influence anyway.)
Now that this stuff is off of my chest, let's get to the arguments. What evidence is there that so many of the ideas that are floating around there are wrong? If I recall correctly, for thedeliriousdonut, logic was not valued and there was an uncritical embrace of scientism. The elephant in the room for me is that reductionism reigns unchallenged there. The first thing to understand is that despite my clarifications, the term reductionism was seen as nothing but an insult towards naturalists more than once. This is especially funny considering the fact that (1) I'm a naturalist and (2) there is a consensus among naturalists that antireductionism is the correct position to adopt and it is reconcilable with physicalism.
And if you don't trust the previously linked Wikipedia source, watch the "Moving Naturalism Forward" conference hosted by Sean Carroll on YouTube (especially day 1 when they speak about emergence). It's also worth mentioning that one of the panelists, Daniel Dennett, a well-known philosopher known for his hardline materialist and functionalist views also changed his thinking in recent years (despite being an old man, and we all know you can't ever teach an old dog new tricks -- that should suggest something about the strength of the arguments).
Ok, some examples of things that are asserted as self-evident in the chat room: "of course love is [just] a chemical in the brain", "human behavior is entirely predictable", "life is [just] an addiction", "the whole is not more than the sum of its parts", "there's no such thing as a self", "there's no such thing as creativity". Alright, you get the idea. So, why do I think this is wrong? Well, I'll get into that now, but first, I have to stress again that the main issue I have is the assurance behind the claims and the lack of intellectual curiosity of those who make them. These are not claims made by people who are studying the subject matter as objectively as possible. They are made by people who are pretty much only consuming material that already aligns with this view. That's one big problem in itself -- one which isn't new in this community.
Secondly, it's a question that I can only answer partly and superficially. I am a student who is learning every day -- or trying to -- I am not in a position to teach others. The best I can do is share my thoughts and some resources. I have only started seriously studying the sciences recently, but in that small time frame, I have learned a lot. I only wish I could share what I've learned in a competent way, but I can only fall short of such a goal. I will, however, elaborate on many of the things I've touched upon (or neglected to mention) in future posts when I'll know more.
3. An update on my views (critique of reductionism)
I feel like I should preface this by quickly allaying some people's worries: none of this is inconsistent with philosophical pessimism or the nuanced antinatalism that I have tried to promote over the years on my YouTube channel. It is entirely consistent with the illusion-busting project that I embarked on many years ago when I plunged into the pessimistic literature; it is its continuity. And if you don't agree after reading (and charitably trying to understand my views), I'd love to hear your thoughts. The pessimistic literature is an important piece of the puzzle to me but on its own it's just deeply insufficient because it isn't integrative. Some important lessons from the pessimists to carry forward are, in my view: progress is not linear, utopic thinking is dangerous and chaos is inevitable. The tendency towards self-justification and self-deception is a fundamental problem. Time-consciousness opens us up to terror and there are stark implications of our awareness of death (and its repression) (see: Becker/Terror Management Theory).
We also have to embrace an active and dignified skepticism, as Cioran argued. Speaking of Cioran, let's remember that he was planning to write his graduation thesis on Henri Bergson. Yeah, the guy who wrote Creative Evolution. Indeed, Cioran, one of the most famous pessimists, was certainly no reductionist, along with Schopenhauer -- the two figures that I've discussed the most in the past. This is certainly not me rejecting my roots. In fact, we can go back as far as the Pre-Socratics to see the compatibility of pessimism with non-reductionist -- and in this case non-dualistic -- thought (Heraclitus was called the "weeping philosopher"):
Very interesting blog. Thanks. I wondered where I can find this quote: "order- from-disorder is regularity, order-from noise is novelty, or creativity."(Italics mine) Could you please provide the full reference. Many thanks, Christian
ReplyDeletehttp://systemspedia.org/entry.aspx?entry=2380
DeleteI am not sure which book the quote is taken from. Possibly "The Lost Paradigm" but it might not have been translated in English (I am translating the title from the French). I will post here if I find it.